Incompatible versions between Mac and Windows

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Praeco
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:18 pm Post

Heya,

Our team wants to use Scrivener together on a project and work off the same files at times / send things around, but we currently use both Windows and Mac machines.

Whenever I attempt to open a Scrivener file saved by a Mac user, it gives me an Error about the file having been saved by a newer version of Scrivener. Did some research, and it seems like there isn't much to do apart from either downgrading on the Mac machine, or downloading a not-so-stable Beta version on Windows. So my questions would be:

1. Has anyone worked around this successfully and can share his/her experience?

2. Why is this the case? This feels like a pretty obvious flaw. Does anyone know if the developer team plans to fix this? 'Cause if not, we'll probably cannot use Scrivener.

Thanks in advance!

- Christian

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Silverdragon
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:06 pm Post

Yes, you're absolutely correct. The only way the project formats will be compatible without effort is if you either downgrade Scrivener for Mac to 2.9 or use the Windows 2.9.x.x betas. You CAN download 2.9 for Mac and your 3.0 license codes will work for it. You can find that download here:

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/legacy-download

There one possibility you did not mention: Scrivener Mac 3.0.x can import and export Windows Scrivener 1.9.7.0 projects. This would mean always importing and exporting on the Mac side, which may or may not work for your team workflow.

As I only use Scrivener Mac / Scrivener iOS I can't speak to the stability of the Windows beta.

I'm not a company spokesperson, just a user, but...

The only plans I've ever heard for making the Windows file format compatible with Scrivener 3.0.x for Mac is the eventual release of Scrivener 3.0.x for Windows. Since I don't use the Windows version(s), I can't speak to the stability of the current Windows beta. I can affirm that L&L's policy is to not announce release dates more than a week or three in advance, so there's no telling when, exactly, Windows 3.0.0 will be released, although L&L have said "next year." They said that in late 2017, so I'm presuming 2018. Sometime.

Also, you did mention in your post that your plans are to "work off the same files at times." Scrivener in general has no internal support for this. It would mean using team discipline to be certain that only one individual was working on a project at any given time. That said, there are many successful collaborators on the forum and since I'm not one, I can't give good guidance on how to achieve collaboration :D
So you know where I'm coming from:
  • I'm a user, not an L&L employee.
  • Mac Scrivener 3.0.3, MacBook Air 11, MacOS 10.13.6 (High Sierra)
  • IOS Scrivener 1.1.5, iPhone 6s, iPad Air 2, iOS 12.0

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Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:19 am Post

Can someone from the development team comment here? I bought the bundle as I use both Windows and Mac machines, depending on where I am, but I can only really use the Mac version, taking into account this fundamental flaw. I love Scrivener to bits but coming from a dev background myself its poor to release two OS versions with a flaw like this, in a bundle, and would expect your teams to have a timeline for resolving this defect.

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Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:25 pm Post

I'm not from the development team, but I can say that I've just not upgraded my Mac Scrivener so that I can maintain compatibility with my Windows computer in my office. It's annoying not having the latest version and having a lot of things coming out showing the new features and not being able to access them, but I'm just plugging away at my writing (a PhD dissertation) until it comes out. I keep searching to see if any announcements have been made. I'm hoping that it does happen before the end of 2018!

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OwenKelly
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:51 pm Post

I have been using the beta version for about four months on two projects that require daily writing, and I can attest to the fact that (for me at least on a Windows 8.1 laptop) the beta is very solid.

I work on Windows and on my iPad and sync between the two with no problems, using Dropbox.

The primary area in which the Windows Beta is still deficient is in the area of compiling and exporting finished work. (There are other things to be added but this, I believe, is the main area still lacking necessary features).

If you have the Mac version as well as the Windows beta then you could do all your compiling on the Mac. This would give you a modern working environment on both operating systems.

HTH,
Owen

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kewms
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:52 pm Post

jenny_f wrote:Can someone from the development team comment here? I bought the bundle as I use both Windows and Mac machines, depending on where I am, but I can only really use the Mac version, taking into account this fundamental flaw. I love Scrivener to bits but coming from a dev background myself its poor to release two OS versions with a flaw like this, in a bundle, and would expect your teams to have a timeline for resolving this defect.


I'm not from the development team, but the status of the Windows version and the project format change were both clearly disclosed when Mac Scrivener 3.0 was released. Moreover, the "Export as Scrivener 2 Project" option was present in Mac Scrivener 3 from the initial release (actually from the late betas).

Katherine
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Romsai
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:20 pm Post

I tried using Windows Beta and now have downloaded Scrivener Windows version 1.9.8.0. But I still cannot use Scrivener Windows to open documents started in (or saved with) Scrivener Mac version 3.0.3 (3032). I had hoped that the most recent update of Scrivener Windows would fix Mac compatibility issues, but this appears not to be the case.

Reading through posts in this forum, it looks like I might be able to address this issue by saving documents from Scrivener Mac as a pre-version 3.0 file. Can anyone affirm that this is true? And if so, how to I set Scrivener Mac to save files in the appropriate format?

Thank you.

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kewms
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:33 pm Post

The File -> Export -> Export as Scrivener 2 Project command in Mac Scrivener 3 will render your projects readable by the current Windows release version, which is 1.9.8.

Windows Scrivener 3 uses the same project format as Mac Scrivener 3, so if you're not able to share projects between Mac Scrivener 3 and the Windows *Beta* version, that's a bug and should be reported as such in the Windows Beta forum.

Katherine
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