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Project Notes are Dead, Long Live Project Notes! | Literature and Latte

When we first started putting together The Big List of what Scrivener 3.0 was going to be about, high upon it was the nebulous goal of making the overall experience more cohesive and streamlined. We may spend a little time going over some of the many finer points of that project in a future article, but for now I wish to focus on one aspect of that, something that some might consider to be a smaller adjustment, but one that has changed how I organise work inside of my projects—and reintroduced me to a feature that I had let languish in my own daily use of Scrivener.

If you’ve never come across Project Notes before, they are akin to a basic scratch pad for your project; a place that is always within arm’s reach, no matter what you’re working on at the time. You could either open them up in a separate window, or switch to the “notes” tab in the inspector and keep them right alongside your work.

It’s a great idea[1], but it had a few drawbacks: they didn’t come up in searches along with your other notes and written material, you couldn’t link to them like you could other files in the binder, nor could you include them in the compiled output for proofing drafts, copy them from one project to another—or even export them at all for that matter.

Clearly we had some problems to address, and the first reaction was to pile on a bunch of new capabilities. The solution, as it turned out, was to simplify Scrivener by merging three distinctly different but ultimately compatible features together into one new concept. To illustrate, let’s examine a before and after look at the inspector (I’ve collapsed the Synopsis and General metadata panes on the left for clarity):

You might be thinking to yourself, what’s the big deal, they look about the same! For one thing, there was never a problem with where and how we used project notes. Anchoring the redesign around those parts of it that worked well, like them being easily accessible in the inspector at all times, was something we considered essential to the redesign of the feature. Secondly, despite appearances, what you’re looking at represents an entirely different way of thinking about global notes in your project.

Those veterans out there might notice the first clue along the very top: we aren’t looking at the notes tab, we’re looking at the references tab.[2] As with project notes, references have been a part of Scrivener’s design since the very first version: a simple list in the inspector where you can drop things in from the binder, making them more accessible. You could even link to files on your computer or sites on the Web. None of that has changed, but a few simple additions to the references concept made it possible to do an unlikely thing with them: merge project notes with references and create what will be known going forward as Bookmarks:

  • The list has been cleaned up, and now titles are simply titles. In fact if you change the name of a bookmark in this pane, the original binder item changes too.
  • Next, and most crucially, we added an editor below the list. Click on a bookmark in the upper half, the binder file opens up in the editor below. (And yes, if you’re wondering, this works for stuff that isn’t text as well, like pictures.)
  • Everything you use references for right now is still there. You can load these items into the main editors instead of the sidebar, or as Quick Reference panels.
  • As with before, documents have their own lists as well. We’re looking at the project bookmark list here because that’s the focus of this article, but you can just as easily reference those bookmarks important to individual documents from this same pane. When you create a hyperlink from one section to another, you still get a back-reference, establishing a circular connection between the two items.
  • You can’t see it here, but we beefed up the contextual menu as well, providing more utility functions for bookmarks within the project, to files on your disk or URLs to elsewhere.

As my usage of this area of the project grew, I found my concept of “project notes” grew likewise. Instead of having my notes confined to those sorts of things that can be confined, I was throwing all kinds of files into this list. I often bookmark the chapter I am working on so I can easily get back to it when I go off on a tangent, or the appendix I frequently cross-reference and even my document templates folder so that I can quickly view and modify my templates. Project notes are no longer about having a few little scratch notes in a small cluster I usually forget to look at, they are the most important parts of my project, and where they are dedicated purely to notes, I can organise these directly into the binder among other files they relate to.

A Bookmark Browser

That’s about it for the inspector, but that’s not all project notes were about. While the inspector is convenient, sometimes it is even more convenient to have your notes in a separate window. We needed a good way to provide that same capability and maybe take it to the next level as well, without adding more features and bloat. The answer, like many things, proved simple: use what you’ve already got. In this case, Quick Reference panels became the obvious choice.[3] They are already capable of editing and viewing binder items—the only thing missing was a way of easily browsing through bookmarks.

With a project bookmarks sidebar that can be toggled on and off for any Quick Reference panel, never mind a menu command for calling up a new window with this sidebar already attached, you have everything from the previous design, plus all of the nice things a Quick Reference panel gives you otherwise.

More Convenience with Bookmarks

We could have easily stopped there. After all, at this point project notes have now become as powerful as regular text documents, packed with metadata, capable of being stored on corkboards, as well as all of the things you could do with them before. But we identified one other feature worth sacrificing for the greater good of bookmarks: Favorites.

In the current version of Scrivener you can mark any item in the binder as a Favorite. Doing so boosts the accessibility of the item in most of the menus that allow you to select folders and documents for some purpose. The Edit ▸ Scrivener Link menu, for making hyperlinks in the editor, View ▸ Go To and View ▸ Quick Reference are such places where boosting a thing to the top of the list alleviates the need to drill down through bunches of submenus to get at it.

It was only natural to make bookmarks the same sort of thing. Now when you drop an item into your project bookmark list, it will prominently appear in useful menus, be easily accessible from any Quick Reference panel, and of course be integrated to the right of every document in the inspector.

That left one last thing to merge with the rest: the Favorites panel itself. Not everyone used it, but if you did you would have sorely missed having the ability to keep your top items in a floating list for easy loading into the main editors. We wanted it to be as easy to use as a bookmark sidebar in a modern browser, so we put it on a button in the main toolbar and turned it into a flexible tool where you can either open it and click on a bookmark to load it directly in the editor—or you can tear the list off of the toolbar and leave it floating to the side. And just because we could: once you have a floating list of bookmarks, you can click a button in the corner of it to seamlessly convert it into a Quick Reference panel with a sidebar. Don’t like toolbars? No problem, you can bring up the floating panel with a single shortcut.

How will this work with iOS? As anyone that has used the iOS version of Scrivener knows, we already have a “Bookmarks” list at the top of the binder. You won’t be surprised to hear that it’s all ready to go with the new system. Not only will your notes be readily accessible on your PC or Mac, but featured prominently on the go as well.

That’s it for this week. Next up, we’ll talk about a new way to organise cards in the corkboard; see you then!


  1. We can’t take total credit for it: the original concept came from Ulysses 1.0, which featured a global notepad in a sidebar.  ↩

  2. And because I know somebody is going to spot it and freak out: no, we didn’t get rid of Keywords! But since we have cleaned up the inspector there is now room for all metadata in one tab.  ↩

  3. If you’re coming from Windows, that’s going to be something new as well. You’ll be able to open documents into their own windows with a basic editor that contains a simplified inspector.  ↩

14 Comments

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PerlinP  /  18 AUGUST 2017

Very well-thought-out ideas ! Very promising.
To me, project notes were indeed "a few little scratch notes (...) I usually forget to look at"... Being able to directly organise them into the binder is great.

Looking forward to read more about Scrivener 3.

pr

profjsethlee  /  18 AUGUST 2017

Great work! This will be very helpful. I look forward to updating.

Ni

Nicola  /  19 AUGUST 2017

Great work!
Just a curiosity: what is the name of the font you used? It seemed like cochin, but slightly different

IaP

IaP  /  19 AUGUST 2017

The font I'm using on the "after" side there is Biolinum, a free font made by the Libertine project (most famously used in the Wikipedia logo). I mainly use this font in the outliner and corkboard. There is font called Optima that comes with the Mac that is very close to it. They are both sans serif fonts, but with flared ends, giving them a bit of that serif feel at 12/14pt.

http://www.linuxlibertine.org/index.php?id=86&L=1

Ni

Nicola  /  22 AUGUST 2017

thank you very much :)

Hashim

Hashim  /  29 AUGUST 2017

Amazing!

Almost everything of my wish list for the notes are mentioned in your post! Project Notes is something I use a lot for all of my projects. I can't wait to use the updated Project Notes in Scrivener 3.

The only thing I'm missing are the plans for the Document Notes. I use that as much as the Project Notes. Personally I would love to be able to see the Document Notes of the file I'm working on as well as the Document Notes of the file or folder that's one hierarchy level above that file.

Right now we can only switch between Project and Document Notes. But if I'm working on a scene, I'd love to be able to see not only the notes of that document and of the whole project, but also the notes of the chapter that scene belongs to and maybe even also the notes of the act it belongs to.

I'm looking forward to see what you've done with the Document Notes. And the Project Notes looks awesome! :)

IaP

IaP  /  29 AUGUST 2017

@Hashim: Don't worry, Document Notes are going nowhere (and they haven't really changed much---it's a simple idea and probably doesn't need any embellishment at this point). That first tab on the inspector in the screenshot is where they will remain, as well as the synopsis card. I feel they will in fact be more accessible now, as they will be the sole feature on that tab rather than hosting both document and project notes---meaning whichever you used last hogs the view and you have to switch. Now when you go to that tab it will <em>always</em> be document notes.

As for inspecting other documents' stuff with the inspector while inspecting a document---that isn't something we intend to add. It is very intentionally a one to one resource. You might find employing split views to be of some use here. Also Quick Reference panels, which can load a document's notes into a split could be useful. Even learning some of the keyboard navigation shortcuts in the View/Go To and gaining a familiarity with the history function could help. Although the inspector may be limited to inspecting one thing, you can navigate around in a project very easily and always get back to where you were. As a very non-linear person who writes into very small chunks of text, I consider Scrivener's ability to cut through huge outlines and then back again to be one of its biggest innovations.

Thanks for the kind words! Hope to get this in your hands soon.

Meljean

Meljean  /  26 NOVEMBER 2017

I've just updated to version 3, and I like the new bookmark feature, but I'm having a hard time figuring out where my project notes went in the updated file.

In two of my projects, there is a "Notes" folder in the binder (are the project notes supposed to be converted and placed there?) But in this particular project, there isn't a Notes folder in the binder and my project notes seem to be completely missing. Any ideas?

Meljean

Meljean  /  26 NOVEMBER 2017

Sorry, just realized this is probably a question better posed to the forum. I'll take it there.

IaP

IaP  /  26 NOVEMBER 2017

Hopefully you got some good help in the forum, but briefly I would try using Project Search to look for a phrase from the old project notes. That should dig them up from wherever they are. Standard upgrade policy is to however file project notes into a folder called "Project Notes" at the top level of the binder, and to provide an info dialogue when doing, explaining exactly where they went. So if you didn't see that, or don't see that folder, maybe the project in question didn't have any?

Verytas

Verytas  /  26 DECEMBER 2018

In spite of all the fog you're selling here about project notes, the fact is that they were useful and the new system completely ignores the idea. You are comparing grannies and blueberries. Bookmarks are nothing but a useless bunch of links towards the files whose place I know--as they are mostly in the Research area, hello!
What this tells me is something potentially very serious: that you have reached the spot where you are redesigning Scrivener just to have an update and grab the money from your users of v. 2. To do that, you've started destroying parts that were excellent, and introducing things that nobody asked for.
I've seen tons of wonderful software destroyed by this. Circus Ponies Notebook comes to mind.
Get a hobby.

Ga

Gabby  /  12 MARCH 2021

Hi, I disagree with Verytas comment strongly. I just upgraded and I love this new version of bookmarks. It's way more flexible. BUT: could you add it to your What's New section of the Tutorial? And mention there is Documents Bookmarks and Project Bookmarks dropdown? The carrots ^ are not very visible so I didn't see the option to switch at first. Anyway, I thought they'd been deleted during the upgrade and I was having a bad moment 'til I found this post.

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777utash  /  13 DECEMBER 2023

For over a year I have been struggling to switch from Scrivener 2 to Scrivener 3. I need time to get used to the new arrangement of elements. But what makes me finally close Scrivener 3 is the lack of general notes in the inspector.
I'm a writer, editor, and translator.
When I write books, there is information that must always be in front of me. When I translate, the same is true. Names, catchphrases, location names.
You think an editor doesn't need general notes? I wish! I write general notes for authors as I edit, and I see the information, the warnings they leave for me in the general notes section. Opening up the general notes in bookmarks is inconvenient.
Now, when writers send me a document in Scrivener 3, I ask them to send it to me in Microsoft Word. It's not as convenient, but I know for sure that neither I, nor the writer, will miss anything because of a miscommunication in layout.
I see a lot of people asking for general notes back, and I can't understand why developers persist in denying their users.

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777utash  /  13 DECEMBER 2023

For over a year I have been struggling to switch from Scrivener 2 to Scrivener 3. I need time to get used to the new arrangement of elements. But what makes me finally close Scrivener 3 is the lack of general notes in the inspector.
I'm a writer, editor, and translator.
When I write books, there is information that must always be in front of me. When I translate, the same is true. Names, catchphrases, location names.
You think an editor doesn't need general notes? I wish! I write general notes for authors as I edit, and I see the information, the warnings they leave for me in the general notes section. Opening up the general notes in bookmarks is inconvenient.
Now, when writers send me a document in Scrivener 3, I ask them to send it to me in Microsoft Word. It's not as convenient, but I know for sure that neither I, nor the writer, will miss anything because of a miscommunication in layout.
I see a lot of people asking for general notes back, and I can't understand why developers persist in denying their users.

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